>> well, i think of laird as sort of half human and half ten municipallian. that's, like, the ultimate compliment coming from me because that's my dream is to be half human half neptunian. you know, when you see somebody absolutely in their element, that's how laird is when he's in the ocean in... particularly in the ocean in extreme conditions. you see all the wheels in the track, he comes alive at that particular moment and there isn't anybody else who is even close to him. he won't say that but i can say that. >> rose: there's no one in second place as they sometimes say about people like him? >> no. >> rose: nobody? >> no. even now. even after being at it... >> rose: now. >> now that i'm old. >> rose: (laughs) . >> rose: see, when they start calling you a legend, you better watch out. >> i'm getting benefited from a legend. >> rose: you go from legend to lifetime achievement awards, that's what happened. >> i'm active legend. that's the difference. >> rose: (laughs) yes, that's right. (laughs). >> i don't know. i ended the book feeling as though there's n